
Tracy Cartwright with Francine Jordà
3 Jul 2025
In this episode, I sit down with the deeply insightful Francine Jordà —an international family constellations facilitator whose journey between Spain and Australia is as rich and layered as the systems she works with.
Francine shares how grief led her to her first constellation—an experience so powerful it shifted her relationship with loss, opened her heart, and changed the course of her life. We explore how her migration story shaped her work, and how she now brings systemic healing to families, children, and organisations across the world.
Together, we explore:
How migration stories live in the body and family system
What changed when Francine gave grief a place—and her back pain disappeared
Working systemically with at-risk children and the ripple effect of inclusion
The power of bowing to what is, and how it softened her system and spirit
How autonomy, ancestral awareness, and daily systemic practice sustain healing
Why constellations are more than a tool—they’re a way of life
Francine’s presence is grounding, wise, and full of quiet depth. Her insights into healing, identity, and belonging will stay with you long after the episode ends.
Learn more about Irmgard Francine: francinejorda.com
I’d love to hear what resonates with you—drop me a message on Instagram @tracy.cartwright and for more insights visit my website at tracycartwright.co.nz
Thank you for joining me—let’s embark on this journey together!